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Post by macmex on Feb 13, 2018 7:57:59 GMT -6
Glen, for that bean, the "right conditions" are probably higher humidity and cooler night temperatures. Where it comes from it can get hot, but it is high altitude, and the nights cool down. Also, their dry season only lasts 6-8 weeks. Their rainy season is about the same. The rest of the year is moderate with occasional rain.
Up here Oaxaca Cream doesn't even flower until fall. That's because of day length sensitivity. If I planted some on my sun porch, now, and managed to keep them alive, they still probably wouldn't flower until late September, unless, perhaps they attained a size and maturity to flower, before the days got too long in the Spring.
I actually received a small packet of seed in the mail on the weekend. Thanks! I sent you a WhatsApp, acknowledging it. The seed arrived in perfect condition.
George
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Post by hmoosek on Feb 14, 2018 11:48:05 GMT -6
The vines sure are nice!
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Post by glen on Feb 15, 2018 13:09:53 GMT -6
I appreciate it. The vines are not cooperating as far as setting fruit's yet. I did notice a few. The first half of the row has yellowed out leaves and I do not know what causes this. Could be root rot? Don't know, but yellow leaves seem to be a condition caused by lack of nutriciĆ³n. The last half of the row has greener leaves. And, much more blooms. However, no fruit set. Looking forward to seeing some Oaxacan creme bean vines grown in Texas so we can see if your climate makes a difference. I bet it does.
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Post by glen on Feb 16, 2018 12:54:40 GMT -6
Looking at the vines this morning I notice lots and lots of blooms. Blooms are turning brown and falling off the vines. There is a few blooms that are setting pods but one has to really look hard to find them. Something is not right with this variety of pole bean. Maybe its daylength? Maybe its severe temperatures? Night time temperatures to hot? Humidity too high nor not high enough? I have limited past experience with this variety. I do believe that little by little I will begin to see pods being produced based on what I saw and noticed last time. Pods form very slowly. I may not even get enough to make a mess for the kitchen. We'll see. I need to find more volunteers to take some of the seed off my hands because its proving to me that my climate is not really very conducive to this variety's happiness. Or, mine. Hope HMoosek has better luck with this variety than I am.
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Post by glen on Feb 16, 2018 13:02:11 GMT -6
Growing this bean out has been a good learning experience. I never realized how complicated pole-beans are. I just figured that you poke a few pole beans in the ground and then get the heck out of the way. Its just not that easy. Each pole bean species is a little different and may or may not like the environment that you try to grow it in. I have a long growing season which is in my favor since I live near the equator. But, this variety is pretty finicky and certainly doesn't seem to like my tropical conditions which in my case means short day length, high temps at night, and high humidity levels and weird rainy and dry seasons. If you saw these vines and the sheer quantity of blooms you would be able to understand my frustration. In the right conditions it appears that this variety would just be covered over in nice fat greasy pods.
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Post by glen on Feb 20, 2018 17:00:58 GMT -6
I just got back from inspecting the row of pole-beans. If you look real hard, using both hands to move the vines around you can find a couple of beans forming into pods. I think I saw 3. A couple of weeks ago there was literally thousands of beautiful blue blooms on the vines. There is a lot less now and you can see the little branches where the blooms used to be. The blooms are gone. And, no little pods are forming in their place. Not a good sign. This variety obviously does not like my severe heat and high wind and lack of moisture or to put it more simply, hell on earth(no wonder I haven't met a new Xpat in years here.)
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Post by hmoosek on Feb 21, 2018 10:47:54 GMT -6
I am now a member of he Oaxacan Cream Bean Club. I put them in a jar and placed in the freezer. I can't wait till planting time!
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Post by glen on Feb 21, 2018 16:22:31 GMT -6
I am absolutely thrilled. If you need more seed let me know.
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Post by hmoosek on Mar 12, 2018 21:24:33 GMT -6
I'm getting itchy. We've been having awful pretty weather. Day before yesterday was 87. Today was cloudy and cooler in the high 60's. Some of the stuff I have plenty of seed of, I may roll the dice.
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Post by glen on Mar 13, 2018 9:27:08 GMT -6
I am real curious to see if this variety will set pods for you Moose. If you plant them early and they get set back by a frost I can send more seed. But, it would take 2 months to get them. Try and be patient and let some warm weather visit. Oaxacan creme pole bean comes from Mexico. I think its warm there.
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Post by glen on Apr 5, 2018 20:18:52 GMT -6
My latest trial of Oaxacan creme pole bean was a failure. It did not produce any beans. Anthony is this beans last hope for survival. Good luck. I still have plenty of seed to pass on if any experienced bean lovers want to give this one a try. Its an endangered variety.
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Post by hmoosek on Apr 7, 2018 5:55:52 GMT -6
I'll try my best. I now have 3 varieties of endangered beans, but Oaxican Cream is the best one for my climate.
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Post by macmex on Apr 7, 2018 6:06:00 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure that it'll make for you , Moose. I am probably going to do a planting in a bucket too, just to try to reproduce the seed. I don't know why it made seed for me, in NJ, in 2004, other than we had an extraordinarily late frost that year, and, perhaps, they were a little shaded in their place.
I think this bean has potential for the Far South. The quality of the pods is really really excellent.
George
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Post by glen on Apr 10, 2018 20:19:00 GMT -6
George, I have several small peanut butter jars almost full of this seed. I am frustrated with this bean. It is hard to grow. I got lucky when I was able to produce the seed I did produce. It is in the freezer where I hope it keeps nice. I will pass on seed if anyone needs it. So, even though I am no longer going to be growing this bean, I do have a seed stash to share. Also, I sent a sample of of this seed to my friend in Kumasi, Ghana. The man will be trialing some of this seed there. He will pass on a review of this trial and I will share it here when I get it. He will be the first man in Ghana to trial this seed. Maybe the last?
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Post by hmoosek on Apr 23, 2018 17:45:59 GMT -6
Ok guys 2018 Oaxacan Cream Bean Kickoff has begun. I planted 4 beans today. The young man that was supposed to till my spot broke his arm, so I'm on my own. All I could do was scratch a small spot in front of an old shed we don't use anymore. I'm hoping they can crawl up it and use it for support. I plan to scratch out a couple more spots in the next few days.
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