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Post by glen on May 11, 2018 16:29:42 GMT -6
Moose, the way you are doing things you should be able to determine if planting at different times will help for this vine to produce. I did have success the first time I planted during the rainy season. That is the season I was able to collect seed. I did not get to eat any of this string beans. The first thing that happened was that I got a nice bloom. I mean the vines were covered over with hundreds of blooms. There was only a few vines. About 10 in all. The original bloom did not produce hardly any fruit set. Nights were warm. However, later, some of my nights got cool enough that I think the blooms were able to set fruit. I did not get a huge fruit set. But, it was enough to be able to save a real nice quantity of seed. My point is that you have to be real patient with this variety of bean. My nights are just plain hot. If you have mild night time temps to go along with the warm days and short daylengths I predict that you will have a good crop. So, you idea to plant at different times is going to pay off. I know you will be marking down the times you plant and the results in your black book. I am pretty sure you have night time temps way cooler than I do. Its so darn hot down here that it is difficult to describe. Its terrible hot and humid at night. Evidently this bean can't tolerate it. On the bright side, I saw blooms that were absolutely incredible. Vines just covered over like you have never seen before. So, this variety has real good potential and the fact that it is a so called "Greasy Bean" and it is connected with Indian or Mestizo culture makes the effort to save this bean well worth it.
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Post by hmoosek on May 11, 2018 18:10:46 GMT -6
glen macmex Glen, I remember in one of your posts about this bean having a delicate vine. You are so right! I hope you can see it in the picture. The vine is on its way up, but it is so dainty!
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Post by glen on May 19, 2018 16:28:17 GMT -6
I didn't see this. Good looking start Moose! Yes, they are skinny Little feminine vines. They get thicker with age though and they grow fast. It will grow all the way up that string in no time flat, then start looking for other places to climb. I think it would climb 12 feet up pretty easily if given something to climb on. The vines don't like to grow horizontally. They are vertical or bust.
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Post by hmoosek on May 20, 2018 17:25:59 GMT -6
We had a bad storm today and I lost several bean plants. I'm happy to report Oaxacan Cream survived without a scratch.
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Post by hmoosek on May 23, 2018 20:38:25 GMT -6
Don't know if you can see, but the one on the left is starting to climb too. The second picture show 2 more plants that are up.
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Post by hmoosek on May 26, 2018 11:17:06 GMT -6
Ok, it's at the top of my building. I'm not sure what to do. Should I coach them to go over the top?
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Post by macmex on May 26, 2018 20:22:33 GMT -6
You don't have to have it go higher. If left alone, the vine will probably fall back and then make a loop, as it climbs up again. Some beans, if given a straight shot, would climb 20!'
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Post by glen on May 28, 2018 18:44:38 GMT -6
They can grow pretty tall. And, they grow real fast. Look at the distance between leaf nodes. They will begin to branch off at the leaf nodes also. The impressive part is still to come. Wait until you see the blooms! Then, I will be super impressed if those vines make beans. Because for what-ever reason, mine won't make beans. The pretty blue flowers all just fall off. I got my fingers crossed for you.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 2, 2018 18:55:10 GMT -6
The heat did these in. I have 2 plants left hanging on a thread. I water them deeply every couple of days, but they just seemed to dry up in this heat. They look awful.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 6, 2018 21:02:11 GMT -6
They died. My heat was too much for them. This has been an exceptionally hot year.
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Post by macmex on Jul 9, 2018 5:43:35 GMT -6
Sorry to hear this. Perhaps they would do better for you as a fall crop. If I'm going to plant any this year, I need to move on it real soon. I'd have to sow in a container, as they generally won't flower until it's too late for our area, and they get frosted.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Aug 11, 2018 20:34:35 GMT -6
I'm almost afraid to say this out loud, but my Oaxacan Cream bean vines are still looking very good. They haven't shown any sign of blooming yet, but the vines are 12 and a half feet tall from the top of the pot to the tip of the vines that are growing up past my roofline. We had a pretty hard Northwest wind and very heavy rains today. These vines stood up to it very well.
I planted them in a pot with wheels this Spring with the intention of being able to bring them inside if they have not set seed before frost. That might prove to be fairly difficult to achieve though, unless I can unwind them from the bamboo pole that George supplied for them to climb on this Summer. Jack would be proud of this beanstalk. Even so, it's not nearly as nice as the specimen George grew last Summer. George is still the "Bean King".
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Post by glen on Aug 21, 2018 23:53:00 GMT -6
The vines look nice. I didn't see this post at first. For me, they bloom like crazy. Then, all the blooms fall off with no corresponding fruit set. I lost my patience.
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Post by macmex on Aug 22, 2018 5:42:00 GMT -6
Here in Oklahoma they bloom very late. I last grew them here in 2008. Just looked at my notes, and I had my first small pods on September 20. So that places it slightly later than Tarahumara Pink Green Bean. I brought those onto the enclosed sun porch and had dry seed sometime in November. I forgot to note down the date.
These beans come from a fairly high elevation, in the southern part of Mexico. They probably experience seasonal dry spells, but nothing like Oklahoma or Panama's dry spells. They wouldn't have experienced the extreme heat of Oklahoma, Texas or Panama. Yet, given the right planting date and the right climate, I believe this one would be a winner for someone. It's pods were the best of any green bean I've ever eaten.
George
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Post by glen on Aug 28, 2018 22:15:15 GMT -6
George, Only you can talk about the climate that these beans come from since you were the one that bumped into them in Mexico. I have asked you before, how did these beans perform for Merry Youle? I never did get an answer to that question. If they did well for her, why don't we know something about Merry's weather conditions? She could be the key to unlocking this beans secrets. Would it be possible for you to email her and ask her to detail how well this variety performed for her, what are her weather conditions and how they yielded etc. Evidently they performed well for her. Once we know the answer to this question we might be able to find a home for the seed. I have a lot of this seed in the freezer and I do not plan to plant any more. You can look over my notes here on the thread. I planted one time towards the end of my rainy season. I had marginal success but it was not until the majority of the first blossom set fell off the vines. I have a 12 oz peanut butter jar full of this seed plus another partial. I will send this seed to someone if they have the right weather conditions based on what Merry Youle describes.
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