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Post by glen on Jan 16, 2018 15:19:42 GMT -6
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Post by glen on Jan 19, 2018 14:34:43 GMT -6
Foto's 1-19-2019 Vines getting tall, folding over now. No blooms.
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Post by macmex on Jan 19, 2018 19:08:07 GMT -6
This is wonderful! Hopefully they will flower and produce a bumper crop!
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Post by glen on Jan 20, 2018 9:46:10 GMT -6
I am curious to see what happens also. They grow so fast when grown this time of year. Glad I stuck with them.
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Post by glen on Jan 27, 2018 16:40:22 GMT -6
The vines have put on blooms already. I have not seen any tiny pods being formed. This variety puts on pods only when it feels like it. The first time I grew it out I thought the project was a failure because it took so long for the vines to decide to make snaps. Then when it decided to start making snaps the whole process seemed to take forever. Its just the way this variety is. Slowly but surely you get a nice indeterminate crop of pods. I have plenty of seeds now so this time I will be eating the crop. I have a couple of small jars full of seed now in the freezer, enough to last me for years. Maybe if this latest trial turns out to be a winner someone will request a seed sample?
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Post by macmex on Jan 28, 2018 6:53:41 GMT -6
I bet the reason it is slow to form pods has to do with temperature and/or humidity. Some beans won't put on pods when temps are high or humidity is too low. Sometimes one can encourage them to fruit by spraying the plants with a hose, just as the sun is going down. Here in Oklahoma we have this trouble with Kentucky Wonder Pole beans. A very nice variety, but it doesn't like our heat and often won't set pods until fall.
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Post by glen on Jan 28, 2018 13:31:07 GMT -6
You could be right. This whole trial is a complete learning experience. I noticed today that in the row of vines parts of the row are much greener and thicker. And, happier. The entire row of beans is being treated equally, in the same soil. I just have no idea what's going on at this point.
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Post by hmoosek on Feb 4, 2018 20:02:49 GMT -6
Maybe if this latest trial turns out to be a winner someone will request a seed sample? I am a certified beanaholic. If you are successful in saving seed, I would like to request a sample.
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Post by glen on Feb 4, 2018 20:52:52 GMT -6
I have plenty of seed already saved. You will need to leave your address. This variety needs time to form beans. Over 100 days. I think you should ask George whether he believes this variety will produce for you.
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Post by hmoosek on Feb 5, 2018 2:16:33 GMT -6
Whatcha think George? I'm a couple hours southeast of Dallas
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Post by macmex on Feb 5, 2018 7:00:46 GMT -6
I suspect they will produce for you. It's great to find someone that far south, who will try. This bean is a late bloomer, due to day length sensitivity. Here in Oklahoma it doesn't begin to set pods until late September or sometime in October. So, the only time I succeeded in getting seed, I had to bring a container of them onto my sun porch, in the fall.
It is a wonderful greasy, tender podded bean. Bill Best would love it.
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Post by glen on Feb 5, 2018 12:54:00 GMT -6
HmooseK, If you leave me your address I will try and send you some seed. It will be about 20 seeds. Not because I do not have a lot. I have plenty. I am having a hard time getting mail thru customs right now. Sometimes they confiscate the envelopes. As you know, I live in Panama. This problem has just cropped up ever since Trump became President. I will send the seed in a plain white envelope as it attracts less attention. If everything goes well, you will receive the seed in 2 to 4 months. Right now, there is a hieghtened chance of this envelope getting confiscated. However, its worth trying to send. Lately I have had a lot of bad luck so we just keep our fingers crossed. On the bright side, it only costs me 35 cents to send an envelope so should they confiscate this mail it isn't catasclysmic. I don't bother to register the mail. Just a waste of money.
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Post by glen on Feb 5, 2018 13:00:39 GMT -6
George, you mentioned that this bean is a late bloomer. What did you mean by that. It blooms for me real fast. My vines are now covered over in blooms. I don't think they are more than 2 months old. The problem is that there is no fruit set. The flowers just fall off. Later, the vines will begin to set pods. It happens slowly. And, continuously. Not many at a time either. Right now there are not even any tiny fruits that you can see on the vines. If you touch a browned off bloom it will just fall on the ground. No cigars. This bean only produces when conditions are right for this bean. What this means is not clear to me. If conditions were right, this bean would produce a lot of beans. You can see by the sheer quantity of blooms on the vines. I just don't know what the right conditions need to be. Daylength here in Panama is pretty consistent all year due to my being so near the equator. About 11.5 to 12.5 hours. Mostly 12 hours or less though. Without a doubt a short day climate.
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Post by glen on Feb 5, 2018 18:53:04 GMT -6
George, Ron emailed me and he tells me he received some of the oaxacan creme pole bean seed today. I bet if you are nice to him he just might share some with you?
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Post by glen on Feb 12, 2018 15:36:37 GMT -6
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