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Post by chrysanthemum on Jul 17, 2022 15:56:27 GMT -6
I've seen talk here of a midsummer sowing of beans to replace those that die back in the heat. Unheard of over here but our autumns down in the south are mild enough that a late June - early July sowing can still produce a seed crop. I'm wondering if those of you that have your beans suffer in the heat have tried yardlong beans to bridge the gap? I think they're adapted to much higher temperatures. I wish I took the risk and tried them out this season as we're having drought, prolonged spells of heat (up to 40 celcius over the next two days) and the polytunnel is a hellish sauna, perfect for southeast Asian veg. The Barksdale waxes, which would have loved last year's cool and wet, aren't looking all too happy right now. Good to see you back here, triffid. I, too, have been wondering about your garden and have seen recent news of a heatwave on your side of the Atlantic. We’ve been having record setting heat in our part of Texas, and it has been very hard on my garden (and on me). Just last week I put in an order for some Asian long beans to see about growing them in the heat. I also, inspired by this thread, ordered some Woods Mountain Crazy Beans. I have space to plant both types and to see how they do and how we like them. We had one small harvest of beans (too small even to serve as an adequate side dish for our family), and that was it before the high heat hit. I’m still hoping to get enough for fresh eating and even for preserving if possible. I has not been possible so far this spring and summer, but I’m hoping that it might cool down in the fall.
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 18, 2022 9:56:57 GMT -6
Well, I've got a small bit of new ground prepped for bush beans. Torched it, turned it, torched it again, amended, stirred (not shaken), raked and leveled it all out. Pretty slow going in this humidity, whew!
Next year I plan to start using plastic and drip lines for the whole garden. I spend entirely too much time and energy fighting weeds and grass.
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Post by woodeye on Jul 18, 2022 11:00:46 GMT -6
Well, I've got a small bit of new ground prepped for bush beans. Torched it, turned it, torched it again, amended, stirred (not shaken), raked and leveled it all out. Pretty slow going in this humidity, whew! Next year I plan to start using plastic and drip lines for the whole garden. I spend entirely too much time and energy fighting weeds and grass. Sounds great!
That is exactly what I want to do next year after my super max security compound is complete...
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Post by triffid on Jul 19, 2022 6:53:51 GMT -6
Interesting thought to grow yardlong beans for leather britches, I'd imagine you could get a healthy amount of them from only a few vines. My mother says they're the best for bean curry, so that's my main drive for trying to grow them. Shall have to be next year as even though I'm sure they'd love the weather forecast for the coming few weeks, autumn will likely be too cool for their liking. macmex which variety do you grow? Any favourites for flavour, earliness, etc? Thanks, chrysanthemum. Sorry to read the weather is beating you down over there, too. Best of luck with the long beans, and the Woods Mountain crazy beans look excellent.The allotment is alright, all things considered. In avoiding the sun there is only enough time to get some watering done either at dawn or dusk, by the time that's done it's either dark or too hot for other jobs. The days are still long with 16h of daylight. It's almost unbearable here right now. Inside is like an oven. Outside is like an oven. Not one to be left out, the breeze has taken on the role of fan-assisted oven. And I live across the street from the sea - inland must be agonising for so many. By tomorrow it will have dropped more than 10c but it will creep back up again by the weekend. hmoosek, those three beans are doing okay, still rather small in comparison to the runner beans and no flowers yet. I'm growing many more Appalachian varietes this year, most new to me but some I'm trying out again to get to know them better. I grew Non-tough Half Runner and Brown Tobacco Worm in 2020, another season with a wicked heatwave. The BTW didn't like this and finished early, but produced a fair amount of seed. NTHR had heavier foliage and kept going until the late August rains, after which it really took off. This year I sowed these two beans 5 weeks later than most of the other varieties, on 15th June. The BTW look healthy enough but slow growing right now, perhaps again insulted by the heat. But the NTHR (around 40 plants) are in their element. The leaves are 30cm across, which I've only seen in beans growing in shaded spots. These are in full sun all day long. I really hope they keep up this trend as I'd love nothing more than some big bags of leather britches for winter. I'd post a picture of the leaves but I've no idea how!
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Post by macmex on Jul 19, 2022 8:24:12 GMT -6
I always grow Georgia Long, which is probably the plain Jane red seeded yard long sold by Gurney's and other catalogs, since before I can remember. I received my seed in 1987 from some seed savers in Missouri. They, in turn, received the seed from a fellow named Faxon Stinnet, of Vian, Oklahoma. This is probably old seed from the late 1800s, back when the yard longs first made a splash in North America.
Zeedman (Chris Hoetschl) is the most knowledgeable of anyone I know, regarding varieties of Long Bean. He even has bush varieties. I'll message you with his email.
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 19, 2022 8:26:52 GMT -6
The Woods Mountain Crazy Beans arrived yesterday, soaked overnight, and are in the ground.
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Post by chrysanthemum on Jul 20, 2022 13:09:33 GMT -6
The Woods Mountain Crazy Beans arrived yesterday, soaked overnight, and are in the ground. Ooh, that’s making my impatient for mine to come. Keep us posted.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 21, 2022 15:08:19 GMT -6
The Woods Mountain Crazy Beans arrived yesterday, soaked overnight, and are in the ground. Please keep us up to date. I had seed from the original donor, but lost it in 2018 during a grow out. I presprouted my seed with 100% germination and planted them. Some kind of bug nipped them off at ground level. Probably a grass hoppy hopper.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 21, 2022 15:11:31 GMT -6
I always grow Georgia Long, which is probably the plain Jane red seeded yard long sold by Gurney's and other catalogs, since before I can remember. I received my seed in 1987 from some seed savers in Missouri. They, in turn, received the seed from a fellow named Faxon Stinnet, of Vian, Oklahoma. This is probably old seed from the late 1800s, back when the yard longs first made a splash in North America.
Zeedman (Chris Hoetschl) is the most knowledgeable of anyone I know, regarding varieties of Long Bean. He even has bush varieties. I'll message you with his email.
Chris gave me my start of Seirra Madre. I grew it in 2018! It’s a dandy long bean. My Uncle was amazed at my “green beans.” Stating “that’s the longest green bean I ever saw.”
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 21, 2022 16:55:31 GMT -6
The Woods Mountain Crazy Beans arrived yesterday, soaked overnight, and are in the ground. Please keep us up to date. I had seed from the original donor, but lost it in 2018 during a grow out. I presprouted my seed with 100% germination and planted them. Some kind of bug nipped them off at ground level. Probably a grass hoppy hopper. First bean has appeared!
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 21, 2022 17:26:31 GMT -6
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 22, 2022 7:49:41 GMT -6
Is there a good book on the subject of beans and peas? I think I need a reference just to orient me on the subject.
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Post by chrysanthemum on Jul 23, 2022 10:12:41 GMT -6
Congratulations on that first bean. I bet you’ve got more up by now. I always find beans so amazing when they pop up from the soil and begin to unfurl.
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 23, 2022 10:59:47 GMT -6
Congratulations on that first bean. I bet you’ve got more up by now. I always find beans so amazing when they pop up from the soil and begin to unfurl. Thanks! Two more popped up overnight and the first is already putting out true leaves. It is starting fast!
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 24, 2022 0:47:05 GMT -6
hedgeapple I’m always surprised at how fast they take off.
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