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Post by rdback on Jul 13, 2022 17:46:25 GMT -6
...What do you recommend in a green (typical) snap bush bean for this year? Not concerned about pod texture in terms of greasy or not - they'll be eaten fresh, frozen and canned. Do want them predominantly green in color, but speckling of one sort or another is just fine...
Haha, I quit growing bush beans about 10 years ago because the back is about shot. Anyway, I went back through my notes and found a few you might want to look at.
Early Contender - Starts producing nearly a week ahead of most varieties. Bears 6- to 8-in. stringless pods and nothing stops it! Tolerates mosaic virus, greasy pod and heat. Cooks up tender; cans and freezes with no loss of quality.
Provider - (SESE) [Introduced by Dr. Hoffman of South Carolina in 1965.] A favorite of many market growers, this widely adapted snap bean offers heavy early yields. Virus resistant and slow to wilt. 16-18" plant with 5-8" green beans.
Top Crop - AAS winner. aka Topcrop Vigorous 15-18” bushes set a heavy crop of 6-7” long medium green pods that are round, straight meaty and free of strings and fiber. Pods set high on bush. Brown seeded with buff modeling. Widely adapted, heavy yielding, and an early producer.
Woods Mountain Crazy Bean- These beans were popular in the 1930s, called crazy due to the fact that when grown without irrigation, the plants drop their leaves, but when fall rains come, they leaf out again, like crazy. From the Hill Family, Woods Mtn, Johnson County, Arkansas.
If you want to venture out from just green, here's a couple more:
Dragon Tongue - Dutch wax bean that has large 6-8" cream-colored pods with thin purple stripes that disappear when blanched. Wide, extremely crisp and juicy stringless pods. Compact high yielding plants. Bush habit, 55-60 days.
Red Swan - Snap bean developed by Robert Lobitz (1941-2006) as a cross between a purple snap bean and a pinto bean. Dusty rose colored pods. Stringless.
If you're not going to save seed this year, you can mix and match freely. If you plan on seed-saving, we'll probably need to talk more.
Yep. Beans are fun!
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 13, 2022 18:00:52 GMT -6
Rick, did the storms pass by you ok?
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Post by rdback on Jul 13, 2022 19:41:26 GMT -6
Rick, did the storms pass by you ok?
Yepper, for the most part. They headed east and intensified on their way toward D.C. (and hedgeapple). We got about an inch of rain, and that was it.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 13, 2022 19:51:19 GMT -6
Glad to hear y’all are ok!
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 13, 2022 19:56:32 GMT -6
Rick, did the storms pass by you ok?
Yepper, for the most part. They headed east and intensified on their way toward D.C. (and hedgeapple). We got about an inch of rain, and that was it. Yes, we got a good little storm last night. Lots of rain, thunder and howling winds. A few things got blown around but no real damage.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 13, 2022 20:10:28 GMT -6
Glad to hear! It’s been awhile since we’ve seen rain drops.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 16, 2022 19:39:35 GMT -6
hedgeappleDid you decide what varieties of beans to try?
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Post by woodeye on Jul 16, 2022 19:56:40 GMT -6
hmoosek, The suspense and drama created by hedgeapple's bean variety selections have caused me to select mine already, not sure about him.
For next year, Mine are:
Tennessee Cutshort Bean........have never grown these (from Sandhill Preservation)
Woods Mountain Crazy Bean...have never grown these (from Sandhill Preservation)
+ My cowpea selection: Ozark Razorback Cowpeas...<<<----Have grown these several times, my all time favorite...(from Baker Creek Seeds)
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 16, 2022 20:24:47 GMT -6
woodeyeAll three are awesome! Ozark Razorback is one of my most favorite peas!
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 16, 2022 20:30:27 GMT -6
hedgeappleDid you decide what varieties of beans to try? This year due to timing I'm going to put in Woods Mountain Crazy Bean and see what happens. Next spring I intend to engage in a bean trial with at least 10 varieties to see what does well here and what tastes best to us. If any of you have a favorite bean, or a bean that needs saving, please let me know and I will put it on the list. Funny: Yesterday I messaged my aunt and uncle in Fayetteville, AR for their thoughts on beans and they had very different and equally passionate things to say about their favorite bean. They are my idea of the perfect couple and have been together 60 years, but when it comes to beans, they just grow both of their favorites to keep the peace. lol
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 16, 2022 20:52:39 GMT -6
What do they grow?
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Post by hedgeapple on Jul 16, 2022 21:13:49 GMT -6
He prefers Blue Lake bush beans, and she strongly prefers Kentucky Wonder pole beans "on the mature side for flavor."
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Post by triffid on Jul 17, 2022 14:17:09 GMT -6
I've seen talk here of a midsummer sowing of beans to replace those that die back in the heat. Unheard of over here but our autumns down in the south are mild enough that a late June - early July sowing can still produce a seed crop. I'm wondering if those of you that have your beans suffer in the heat have tried yardlong beans to bridge the gap? I think they're adapted to much higher temperatures. I wish I took the risk and tried them out this season as we're having drought, prolonged spells of heat (up to 40 celcius over the next two days) and the polytunnel is a hellish sauna, perfect for southeast Asian veg. The Barksdale waxes, which would have loved last year's cool and wet, aren't looking all too happy right now.
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Post by macmex on Jul 17, 2022 15:18:53 GMT -6
Absolutely. Many years I plant a trellis of yard longs just for the time in mid summer when all p. vulgaris types stop producing. I don't like the yard longs as much as regular beans but they sure are good when you can't get the others! Yes, you are correct. They thrive in lots of heat. They're also wonderful for supporting beneficial insects, seeing that they have nectaries along their stems.
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Post by hmoosek on Jul 17, 2022 15:24:05 GMT -6
Yes, the long beans do well here in Texas. Ive grown Mrs Stepp and Sierra Madre. While both were good sautéed, I have not tried to make leather britches with either. I’m still partial to Appalachian beans for snaps. triffid I’ve bean meaning to ask how your 3 Appalachian beans did this year?
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