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Post by macmex on Jan 14, 2015 20:37:17 GMT -6
If a person has access to a good variety of grape vine and would like to make more of the same, this is the perfect time of the year to do it. Grapes, usually, have not yet been pruned for the spring. Hence, they are a mass of growth, most of which will be pruned and discarded. All one has to do to make cuttings is cut 1' lengths of vine and, using a breaker bar or sturdy stick, sink them about ¾ down into the ground, in a safe place the garden. They will need to be left in that place until next fall. But they will bud this spring and grow in that place.
If one does this too late in the season, as in mid or late spring, depending on how the spring and summer shape up, the cuttings will likely but and grow at the beginning. But when the heat arrives, they'll die. So it's important to do this early. Actually, I suspect the optimum time to do this is actually around Thanksgiving. But right now should work fine.
By making cuttings in this manner one can easily make grape vines to expand their vineyard, sell or to give as gifts. Imagine, if one friend purchased one variety of grape and a couple other friends each purchased a start of different varieties, within two years they could all swap and each have what the others have! Just be sure, when you take the cuttings from the parent vine, that if you have to transport them, you keep them wrapped in something damp, to protect from dessication. If the cuttings need to be stored a while, wrap them in damp paper and enclose in a plastic bag, then, store the whole thing in a refrigerator.
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Post by fourteenmilecreek on Jan 15, 2015 19:22:36 GMT -6
George, Thanks for opening this thread. A friend of mine asked me how he could get a start of the old grapevine that is on his Dad's homestead. Now, I know the answer.
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Post by fourteenmilecreek on Jan 15, 2015 19:39:47 GMT -6
Does anybody know the best way, and best time of year, to start cuttings of a really good blueberry?
I have one of those, "KA-BLUEY" blueberry bushes that Gurney's sells for $30.00 It's about 5 years old and is getting pretty big. I bears really well too.
I also have a Premier that bears heavily at the same time as the Ka-Bluey.
I have a Climax blueberry, with silvery green leaves, that comes on in July, after all the others are far gone. It bore heavily last year too. The Climax also sprouted up from the ground about a foot away from the base of the plant in several places last Summer. Does anyone know if these root sucker sprouts are true to the parent plant? If so, there are quite a few "whips" about 3' feet tall.
We live 1-1/2 miles from Blue Berry Acres, blueberries do really well here, but the plants are so expensive that it takes several years to acquire enough for a descent size berry patch.
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Post by macmex on Jan 16, 2015 4:38:19 GMT -6
Ron, I hope Sand Mueller drops in soon. He knows more about this than do I. But I'd say you could do 5-6" hardwood cuttings of blueberries, right now. Put them in damp sand or potting medium, in a glass or plastic (not terracotta) pot or tray. Water well. Cover with a plastic bag and place in a fairly cool place where direct sun doesn't reach them. By April you might find that you have roots. This is just an educated guess on how to do it. The ideal time to start would probably have been in November.
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Post by fourteenmilecreek on Jan 16, 2015 11:14:44 GMT -6
If November is the month to do it, I'll still have bushes then too.
Thanks,
Ron
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Post by snickeringbear on Jan 23, 2015 1:06:19 GMT -6
No woody stems, has to be green 1st year growth, must treat with rooting hormones to get good results. I will try to remember to look this up in my propagation manual and post tomorrow. My memory says it is best to score the shoot to break the bark before treating with IBA. I don't recall the exact percentage, but do remember that it is a pretty heavy dose. There are slight variations depending on species. Southern Highbush, Rabbiteye, Northern Highbush, and Northern Lowbush are all propagated similarly.
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Post by sand on Jan 23, 2015 13:45:47 GMT -6
I just took some grape cuttings last week and plan to do more soon. Last year I rooted about 3/4 of 24 double struck 1 gallon pots, probably taken later in February. In the containers they took well and showed no sign of faltering in the heat. I either sold or gave away the lot. Over the last two years I've rooted about five blueberries of maybe 25 cuttings. They are very slow and fine tooted. At the nursery with a late fall cuttings they rooted about 75%, but we had the strong hormones and constant mist set-up. My few successes since have been with simple hardwood cuttings rooted in a cold frame.
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Post by duckcreekfarms on Feb 1, 2015 19:33:09 GMT -6
It's been years since I started Grape cutting and did it with hard wood cutting as suggested, however I have move mostly to soft wood cutting mor most fruits. I have rooted 1000's of cutting from Hardy Kiwi, blackberry, Figs, chokeberry, mulberry and even blueberry......Soft wood cuttings seem to do better for me and root much faster
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Post by ross on Jun 17, 2015 13:23:00 GMT -6
I've had mulberry root from just laying a pruned branch on the ground.
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Post by Heavy Hitter Okra on Aug 29, 2015 18:01:19 GMT -6
This is a list of grape varieties that do well in Oklahoma, zone 6, and zone 7, according to Ty Ty nursery...
Muscadine grape vines grow well in Oklahoma, zone 7, and seedless grape vines, such as the Red Flame seedless grape and the Thompson white seedless grapes are productive. The wine grape vines grow favorably in OK and bunch grapevines, like the Blue Concord, the White Niagara grapevine and the Catawba bunch grape are all excellent Oklahoma grapevine choices.
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Post by john on Aug 30, 2015 6:50:33 GMT -6
On youtube there is a guy who does numerous posts on propagation. I believe it is called Mikes backyard nursery. He explains how the average person can do propagation with out a lot of money invested into fancy misting systems and greenhouses.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Dec 22, 2016 11:52:52 GMT -6
My Muscadine grapes did well this season, but the trees across the dirt road really robbed them of ground moisture this Summer when it got dry, so I'm taking cuttings and moving a few of them to wetter ground during this warm spell. The forecast calls for rain all next week, so maybe they'll root?
I hope so. If not, no loss, they needed to be pruned anyhow.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Aug 11, 2018 17:12:52 GMT -6
Below, is a photo of what my Muscadine grapes are doing right now. I don't think they'll be ripe until October, so they have a lot more growing to do. That is if the heavy rains today don't cause the skins to split.
This vine was rooted 3 years ago. Our cold Winters killed the other two vines. This was the lone survivor. I need to propagate it this Autumn, as it seems to be quite a bit hardier than the others were. I'm looking forward to having a good bunch of table grapes by mid-October.
The variety shown here in the photo is called, "Noble" it's a small, marble sized, very dark purple fruit, so dark that it is nearly black, with tiny golden flecks throughout the skin. It might be small, but it has a really intensely sweet, and very aromatic flavor. It has a hint of fragrance that reminds one a lot of how grape hyacinths smell in early Spring. I think it might be the best tasting wild grape I've ever tried. I would highly recommend it for Cherokee County, Oklahoma residents, as a 'feel good' or 'comfort crop' on the homestead.
My grandma Fannie, born in 1898, had a Noble Muscadine in her front yard, as did my great grandpa, "Daddy Walt" born 1896. Nothing says, "home" like a well established, aromatic, native grape. Every year you taste it, it's guaranteed to bring back wonderful, childhood memories.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Aug 30, 2018 8:51:28 GMT -6
I was wrong about my Muscadine harvest being in October. (That was just based off of what I've seen in the wild as we've gathered Muscadines in the Ouachita Mountains during the NSU Fall Break). The Muscadines I have growing here in Cherokee County, Oklahoma, are at their peak of ripeness right now. I don't remember the cultivar by name, but they are a deep, deep, purple with tiny, sparkly, white specks in their shiny skins. They are the sweetest grape I've ever tasted, probably due in part to the exceptionally dry conditions we suffered during the hot, dry, spell in July. All is well that ends well... The heavy rains since that time have really perked things up!
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Sept 5, 2018 7:51:37 GMT -6
The Pawpaw fruits are all gone now, but the Muscadines are coming on strong. I'll definitely have to try to propagate this vine come Winter. The fruit is of excellent quality. I can't imagine them having a better flavor. However, it was such a dry Summer that the oak trees really robbed it of a lot of needed moisture. If I am successful in getting a starting from a cutting this Winter, I'll need to plant it in a better location. The soil there is good for grape production, but the trees across the dirt road have a wider root system than I gave them credit for.
Oh well, live and learn... What would life be, if we never learned?
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