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Post by glen on Apr 15, 2020 14:47:37 GMT -6
By the way, those are pretty seedlings. I don't think they are annuums. I have a question for you. When Rayado is blooming, how many blossoms do you see in each node? Annuum's usually only produce one blossom in each node. This is one of the traits of the Annuum. Rayado doesn't look like any Annuum that I have ever seen. And, it is a pretty good clue since it doesn't cross with anything that is usually in your garden. Annuum's are terrible about this and cross with everything. I thought you said they were rocotto peppers? I really don't know as I am no expert. I am very interested in growing Rayado because of its look. And, because you said it doesn't cross with everything in the garden. Besides, jalepeno doesn't grow well for me anyways. Most annuum's do not do well for me. Annuum's are a US of A type pepper. My weather is too harsh for them. There is a good chance that Rayado will grow for me down here in Panama. I plan to sew some seed today or tomorrow but they will be grown in those 10 inch wide, 2.35 gallon pots.
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Post by glen on Apr 15, 2020 14:56:37 GMT -6
Looking thru the foto's I noticed that most of the peppers are one to a node. I did see one foto where the peppers do seem to cluster from one particular node where 3 peppers seem to be hanging from one node. Jalepeno never has more than one fruit hanging from one node. The Rayado has a different shade of green where annuum's usually have that bright green color with a long sort of narrow shaped leaf. I can't put it all together in my mind at one time but the plant does not appear to be an annuum to me. They also don't appear to be chinense either. The Chinense pepper usually has 3 to 6 blossoms at each node. This is all a plus for this chili because crossing is a very serious issue in my garden. I don't want promiscuous annuums ruining other more rare variety's of pepper's.
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Post by macmex on Apr 15, 2020 23:14:57 GMT -6
You can try it in pots. I would think the plant would need at least a gallon size. But it would be worth trying if your seed is going to otherwise expire. Rayado is extraordinarily hardy (at least everywhere I've grown it).
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Post by macmex on Apr 15, 2020 23:20:14 GMT -6
I bet you're correct, Glen, on it being some other species. I've never had it cross with anything else in my garden. I do make every effort to avoid crossing, but that's extraordinary. I have planted it side by side with a c. chinese without any crossing.
I think I found one photo with possibly two flowers to a node. It's not real clear. The variety seems invariably to set one pod per node.
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Post by glen on Apr 16, 2020 12:02:14 GMT -6
George, I will be using the 1300 series nursery pots. 10 inches wide. 2.35 gallon pots. I wouldn't grow it in a smaller container than that. Now, since we are on this subject, some types of peppers can grow in one gallon pots. I don't like to do that though. Oh, about the crossing issue. Chinense will cross with other variety's. Just not as readily as Annuum's. As a general rule you have to plant all annuum's away from your chinense. As far as frutescen variety's go I am not sure. I have never had a known frutescen cross that I was certain of. Oh, I am getting away from annuum's. I have decided not to waste any more of my time with jalepeno's. Eventually I won't grow any more. They can't take the heat, and have zero resistance to nematodes, plus they cross with everything. Not worth it in my garden.
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Post by glen on Apr 16, 2020 12:05:54 GMT -6
George, if you join the pepper forum called TheHotPepper and post a foto of Chili Rayado in the appropriate section of the forum those guys will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your pepper. They are the experts. I am curious about what this pepper is myself. Its definitely not an annuum.
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Post by macmex on Apr 16, 2020 19:10:09 GMT -6
I'll do that. Thanks!
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Post by macmex on Apr 16, 2020 19:17:25 GMT -6
Well Glen, that's a no go. I tried for 20 minutes to create an account there. The security code (captcha) stopped me. No matter how careful, I apparently couldn't get it right. Must be child proof.
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Post by glen on Apr 16, 2020 22:21:59 GMT -6
George, that sounds like some sort of glitch. I can tell you that it is worth trying again to become a member. Here is the deal. You got a very rare pepper seed. Become a member of the forum and let them tell you something about that pepper. Then, you will meet folks there that will want to trade seed with you for that pepper. The variety of peppers that they grow there with that group is no less than amazing. That forum will provide information on growing peppers that you did not know. Plus, you can trade some of that Rayado pepper seed for other variety's. Take your time. You can find very rare variety's on that site. TheHotpepper is not just about super-hot peppers. Super hots are the rage now. They are also the most difficult to grow. I can tell you from my limited experience that they are not easy to grow and I do not recommend them to beginners. You on the other hand are not a beginner. So you can easily grow just about any pepper you want. Super-hots are without a doubt worth your time. You only need a couple of plants each season because those variety's make a lot of peppers and some types get real big. But, thats not the point. TheHotpepper can give you access to a lot of knowledge plus a storehouse of different types and variety's of chili's. Some variety's are incredibly beautiful and interesting to grow.
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Post by macmex on Apr 17, 2020 6:28:26 GMT -6
Maybe you might be able to mediate for me. I tried, at least 20 times, with two different browsers, and every time, the captcha security feature blocked me. Just now I had the bright idea of using their "contact form" to ask them for help. I filled it out and went to submit and... it had the same captcha code barrier, which, of course, blocked me from sending them my plea for help.
With Homesteading Edu, I know, when someone has that kind of trouble, I often just manually create their account for them, but I have no way to communicate with them.
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Post by macmex on Apr 17, 2020 11:48:53 GMT -6
Finally got registered. I guess the 100th try was the charm!
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Post by glen on Apr 17, 2020 13:26:52 GMT -6
George, glad you got registered. I can't post foto's on that forum due to my inability to figure out how to use Imgur or whatever that foto service site is called.
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Post by glen on Apr 17, 2020 16:59:14 GMT -6
Ok George, I waited as long as I could and got those Rayado seeds planted today. So, I am hijacking your thread to post foto's of this trial. I am real interested in this trial. Why? Well, I have been having a lot of problems with jalepeno. Chili Rayado looks a little like jalepeno. But, with a twist. Its not an annuum which is a plus. I should be able to keep these peppers anywhere in the yard and not have to worry about them mixing(interbreeding) with my other chili's. Bercy loves pickled Jalepeno rings. Maybe this pepper will become her new favorite!! I hope so. There are three 10 inch pots planted out with Rayado. Those are the 1300 series nursery pots(2.35 gallon size). If the Rayado doesn't like that size pot I can upgrade the pot later in the season. It might adapt just fine to it. I grow a lot of peppers in this size pot. Some variety's like it. Some not so much. The 1300 series pots are cheap to garden with. Only about 1.49 each and they only hold 2 gallons of soil. I highly recommend trying these pots for chili peppers. I even have a Carolina Reaper growing in one. The plant will not get as big as if I planted it in a bigger pot but it will be fine. You get fewer peppers and a smaller plant in a smaller pot. I hope the rayado can adapt to their new home.
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Post by macmex on Apr 18, 2020 7:14:30 GMT -6
Okay, well, I did a post over on The Hot Pepper . The kind folks there have given some good input and the conclusion is that Chile Rayado is a c. annuum. I am impressed with the website. I believe they have a wide range of pepper expertise and interests there, and, I like their friendliness. It's a good place. I think I'll be dropping in from time to time.
Anyway, I'm glad I've always maintained isolation from other c. annuums!
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Post by glen on Apr 18, 2020 12:31:23 GMT -6
George, I can't say that I am not disappointed in the conclusion that Rayado is an annuum. I had planned to put my Rayado's over on the side of the house with the super-hots!!! That might have been disastrous!!! You are right. Those guys know peppers. If you have a problem with your peppers you can post a photo of the pepper and they can tell you what is wrong almost every time. They usually have a remedy to try on the plant as well. Darn it. I wanted Chili Rayado to be a Rocotto.
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