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Post by rdback on Dec 22, 2022 9:47:16 GMT -6
We've all heard the saying "If I had a nickel....".
Well, Ron, if you had a nickel for every one of those okra seeds, your pockets would be bulging with $172,000! lol
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Post by FrostyTurnip on Dec 22, 2022 10:35:57 GMT -6
It amazes me that there are folks who fall out of the womb thinking through problems like this without a blink. I met a few at the arch college in Stillwater who travelled from across the world to attend. There were hundreds in the studio competing for 35 seats. There was a Taiwanese in attendance who had been building model buildings along side his toys since he was a tiny boy, competing with us who had never glued pieces of birch wood together.
Years back I worked with Greg Helms who had graduated with a double degree (Engineering and Arch) while attending OSU Stillwater. Later, it would become known to me that Stillwater is notorious for extremely difficult math classes. It was suggested I travel to the Tulsa campus to do math as it was not as hard. But Greg had passed them both, together, at OSU with flying colors. I found students there who were even smarter than Greg. It was really wonderful to watch and experience. I conceded early on, but have no regrets.
There was one kid there, a blue collar worker. I think he had been a mechanic. He was a young adult student with a job, a wife and kids. He was really crunched. The rest of us on campus would sleep beneath our drafting tables because we were so tired and didn’t want to be late to class. But here was this guy living off campus, supporting and raising a family and attending. He struggled to afford the drafting supplies. I had acquired all of my father’s drafting supplies from the self healing mat, T-squares and the table top square, lead, drafting pencils, auto sharpeners, etc. All of it. I gave it to him.
It was a real honor to have attended. It was an honor to work with the architects before that time who had graduated from there and realize I had worked on some really neat structures from the minds of geniuses.
The math is what makes the cut, usually. I can do it, but I”m too slow. It’s not natural for me. Nobody would want me calculating tension and load for a beam in a vaulted ceiling above people’s heads.
The real geniuses are the contractors, like the one who headed the demolition and renovation of Boone Pickens stadium while simultaneously overseeing the renovation and new builds for the Stillwater public school systems. Blows my mind.
Back in Frank Loyd Wright’s day, things were not regulated and even the architects were contractors, etc. Those laws changed and regulation came about. People argue our freedom on this matter, but I do not. People got hurt. and it was the lack of math that caused those people to get hurt.
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Post by Tucson Grower on Dec 22, 2022 11:10:44 GMT -6
Yep, that reminds me of my son, Joey Clemens, he was a general contractor and architect in Orange county CA. He also owned and operated his own flooring store. He just turned 40 on April 2nd. Of course he only operated as a contractor and store owner/operator. He had the education of an architect, but said his architect training had made him decide to stick with contracting, that architects had too many headaches. He had earned his contractor license before going to school to learn architecture.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Dec 22, 2022 12:04:45 GMT -6
I did the math later and even included the height of the Administration Building across the street as a bonus. Professor Wyatt got a kick out of me being the only one in the class to think of walking over to the Architect's Office to ask; which I highly doubt I would have known to do if I hadn't previously been contracting electrical work for the University and had consulted with that office so frequently.
I guess that's what happens when you work until you're in your 40s before returning to finish your degree. I started out in 1980 as an Industrial Tech major, wanting to become an Architect, but life got in the way and I dropped out of college to become a State Licensed Electrician. I later ran a plumbing crew for a couple of years, worked on boilers, ran an appliance repair shop, became a Building Maintenance Administrator III for the DOC, and ended up 23 years later with a teaching degree. It probably confuses people when they ask me what I did for a living and I say something different every time someone asks.
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Post by FrostyTurnip on Dec 22, 2022 14:37:27 GMT -6
Attaboy to your son, Tucs. Brilliant mind. The wealthiest and those with good ties end up in the artsy fartsy side of arch. The rest get stuck with whatever they started out in. For my dad, it was metal buildings. In my mind I can still lay out a 500,000 sq ft metal building with plumbing, basic electric, foundations all to code. I went through 4 different arch firms in Tulsa and every one of them gave me Nordam drawings. LOL
I knew an arch that only did bus barns. It’s hard to break out of whatever one starts with unless they’re spectacular from the start (real or imagined).
Most of the good stuff is just dog and pony show. That’s where contractors get their mess ups.
But Dad was smart, like Joey. He had the education, but settled with a drafting firm revealing his know-hows to only those he desired. He paid someone else to rubber stamp, passing on the liability. He did well. My brother lives well.
Ron, your observation reminds me of a test in middle school. The teacher laid out a three page test and sprung it on us all. At the very bottom of the 3rd page, it read something to the effect “Do not fill out this test. Hand it in blank with your name on it.” I failed the test. LOL
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Dec 22, 2022 17:42:53 GMT -6
Teachers are sneaky that way.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Dec 23, 2022 15:54:06 GMT -6
We've all heard the saying "If I had a nickel....".
Well, Ron, if you had a nickel for every one of those okra seeds, your pockets would be bulging with $172,000! lol
I'd be extremely happy with only two cents per seed.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Dec 25, 2022 18:50:14 GMT -6
I finally counted the remaining portion of one pound of Heavy Hitter Okra seeds. There were 7,462 altogether. Getting the answer to that question was almost as tedious as trying to count the licks to the center of a Tootsie Pop.
Okay, now that you guys have that number, feel free to use it in finding all the answers to life's most important questions.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Jan 9, 2023 19:48:19 GMT -6
I got a really nice compliment on my Heavy Hitter Okra website today. www.heavyhitterokra.com/
Things like this make it all worthwhile. (Thanks Mr. H).
Just got my seeds today, can't wait to plant! Seeds came with a few extra seeds to share with friends and a handwritten note from Ron thanking me for the purchase. He also included a bag of wild onion bulbs (my wife would kill me if I planted them, they grow like weeds in Alabama, haha). He also included a ziplock bag and a freaking paper towel for germinating the seeds! If customer care is an indicator, Ron is one cool dude, and I would love to meet him! Thanks again!
I hope to be sick of Okra by fall!
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Post by woodeye on Jan 10, 2023 4:30:07 GMT -6
Well said, Mr. H. I endorse your message. + 1
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Post by hedgeapple on Jan 13, 2023 14:43:21 GMT -6
Just came in from the mailbox!
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Post by chrysanthemum on Jan 13, 2023 17:23:46 GMT -6
I know you’re a big okra grower, hedgeapple, so I can’t really remember all the varieties you grow. Is this your first time with Heavy Hitter?
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Post by hedgeapple on Jan 13, 2023 17:35:02 GMT -6
I know you’re a big okra grower, hedgeapple, so I can’t really remember all the varieties you grow. Is this your first time with Heavy Hitter? No, I grew HH in 2018, but I recently bought a larger freezer and need an okra to fill it. 😊
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Post by chrysanthemum on Jan 13, 2023 17:49:34 GMT -6
An admirable goal indeed! I wish you much success.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Jan 14, 2023 6:00:44 GMT -6
Hedgeapple,
Send me an email, heavyhitterokra@gmail.com
Ron
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