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Post by heavyhitterokra on Nov 1, 2022 18:53:17 GMT -6
Wow! Mr. Rick!
I'm with Woodeye on that last comment, what a beautiful tomato plant!
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Post by hmoosek on Nov 1, 2022 19:45:31 GMT -6
rdbackI need to try Matt’s Wild Cherry again. The one i have seeds for and grew n 2007 had tiny tomatoes that were the size of an English Pea. I haven’t grown it since, but I think i might give it another try with fresh seeds.
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Post by chrysanthemum on Nov 2, 2022 19:53:24 GMT -6
Wow. I thought I was pretty safe from temptation with the last few posts. I’m not venturing into the world of super hot peppers, but then an extra prolific cherry tomato picture goes and jumps in. I have to be on my guard.
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Post by woodeye on Nov 2, 2022 20:09:48 GMT -6
Good luck with being on your guard, chrysanthemum . I am trying to do that myself, but when I see pictures like rdback posts, I'm like a bunny rabbit following a carrot on a stick...
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Nov 4, 2022 17:34:08 GMT -6
I agree, pictures like that cherry tomato plant make it hard to stay focused. I always want to try more things than I have space to grow.
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Post by rdback on Nov 11, 2022 10:29:46 GMT -6
Speaking of trying things...
I know they're common as weeds down you folks' way, but tomatillo is not really mainstream around here. In fact, I never tried to grow a tomatillo.....until this year.
Tomatillo Amarylla - this is a yellow variety. I've read that it's kinda rare/hard to find. I don't know how true that is. In any event, these taste a little sweeter, more mellow, less tangy than the green ones. They still taste like a tomatillo though. I like 'em! And, they make a great salsa.
It also appears they are susceptible to some of the same pests as tomatoes.
See him? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . ...how about now lol? Tobacco Hornworm
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Post by macmex on Nov 11, 2022 11:55:28 GMT -6
I grew tomatillos for a few years. We love tomatillos. Unfortunately, we have a wild cousin of tomatillo which is now very established in my garden. It hosts a weevil which destroys every tomatillo I grow. They're all wormy by the time I pick them, so I stopped growing them.
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Post by woodeye on Nov 11, 2022 13:29:49 GMT -6
rdback, I found him in the picture you posted of the plant, the first time you asked. That would make a good jigsaw puzzle picture to do, or hidden object game scene. Nice tomatillos, I haven't grown any in probably 8 years or so, mine had some kind of worm that started messing with the plants when they were about a foot tall. I finally got rid of the worms on them and those plants grew BIG...
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Post by chrysanthemum on Nov 11, 2022 19:44:15 GMT -6
I found him in the original picture, too, but it took some searching and enlarging of the photo on my screen. It kind of made me chuckle because I felt like I was searching for clues on the plant in order to pinpoint a location just the way I do in my own garden when I’m searching the plants for the devourers.
I grew tomatillos for the first time last year (just the green kind). I enjoyed them, but I didn’t grow them again this year because tomatoes were more popular in my house, so we still have some salsa preserved. It would have been interesting to see how they fared in our heat and drought.
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Post by rdback on Nov 16, 2022 16:35:16 GMT -6
Torres Cattywampus
This is a de Arbol type pepper from Jalisco, Mexico. Probably cayenne-level heat. Heavy producer.
Over the years, I've gotten to know the fellow who is the Manager at our local Mexican restaurant. His last name is Torres. He shared with me some dried peppers his mother sent him, who lives in Jalisco. They aren't big on formal names for peppers there. This one is generically called "de Arbol". Long story short, I've grown this pepper out for several years, and use it as the base pepper in my "Torres de Arbol Hot Sauce". I named this pepper after his family and added "Cattywampus" because the pods point in all different directions - kinda cattywampus, lol. He gets a kick out of the hot sauce, and brags about it to all his friends.
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Post by woodeye on Nov 16, 2022 18:38:01 GMT -6
Great looking pepper, Mr. Rick. In general it points upward, seems like pepper plants that grow that way always produced more peppers for me.
I like the name, my dad used to say Cattywampus when referring to things he built or saw, in fact he was my main source back in the day for seldom used words such at that. The internet wasn't even a thing back then, so word research wasn't nearly as easy, and at the time I never even fact-checked the word. I assumed it was just another word that he dreamed up. His specialty was "leckchristy" (electricity). And of course everybody knows that there are 9 "endings" in a baseball game. I was always building something and telling him beforehand what my plan was, but he was not much of a pep squad for me. One day he was telling me that he didn't think there was any way that my plan would work, it was a FAIL before it even got started. I told him that I would appreciate it if he would stop being such a pessimist about everything I want to do. He said, "I'm not being a pessimist, I just don't think it will work"
I miss him every day...
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Post by chrysanthemum on Nov 16, 2022 21:21:29 GMT -6
That’s such a fun story, rdback. I love the name and the picture.
I grew up with the word cattywampus, though I think ours might have been the catawampus variant. I hadn’t thought of it in a long time, though, until the word popped up in book that my younger daughter was given a few years ago called Big Words for Little Geniuses or something to that effect.
We have a bag of dried chiles de arbol in our pantry. Being so far south in Texas, they’re easy to get in the local grocery. I’ve never thought of growing them, I have to admit. I’ll probably give it more thought now that I’ve seen that beautiful plant in the photo.
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Post by macmex on Nov 17, 2022 7:52:23 GMT -6
Seems to be a Central American "thing," or perhaps an "indigenous trait" to be very general about plant variety names. I still chuckle over my early experiences out in the Sierra Madre, walking through an outdoor market and finding a unique tomato or pepper on the blanket of a little Aztec vendor. I'd pick one up and ask (in Spanish) "What kind of tomato is this?" [Keep in mind that Spanish was the trade language. The vendor's native tongue was Aztec and my native tongue is English.] The vendor would generally size me up and think "American, gringo, tourist" and respond slowly with something like, "It's a r e d t o m a t o ." I'd think, "Maybe there's a more specific way to ask this. Surely they have a name for the variety," so I'd ask more slowly, "Yes, but w h a t k i n d of r e d t o m a t o ?" The vendor, at this point would be thinking, "This fellow's Spanish sounds better than it really is. He doesn't understand anything I'm saying," and he or she'd respond, "I t ' s a R O U N D R E D T O M A T O..."
After some years I realized that they simply see things differently than do we. In reality, if no one interfered with how they did things, theirs would be a better way to preserve genetic diversity. Each species of vegetable would be preserved more as a land race, with tons of diversity, spread out over the entire country. The problem is when folk with our system start injecting improved varieties at rock bottom prices. The native folk have no idea of the treasure they already possess and will often drop what they have for the "improved seed," losing generations of genetic material almost over night.
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Post by heavyhitterokra on Nov 21, 2022 18:54:42 GMT -6
I haven't heard the word, "cattywampus" in a very long time. My grandma used to use that word to describe anything that was tussled, leaning an unusual way, or what other folks might call "cockeyed".
That's a good name for that variety of pepper plant. I like it!
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Post by rdback on Nov 30, 2022 18:51:05 GMT -6
Tomatoberry Tomato (F1)
Being a seedsaver, I usually don't grow hybrids, but a friend in Florida sent me the seeds so I said "what the heck". Here's another tomato that grows out of control! This thing went nuts lol. Setting/ripening fruits until frost took it down. The first thing I noticed was how FIRM they are. No "mush" with these guys. They are sweet and have a great tomato flavor. I actually combined these with the Dangler's Ghost peppers and made a nice hot sauce. Even though Tomatoberry is a hybrid, I did save seeds and will grow it next year. It'll be interesting to see what gets produced.
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